The Quantum Biology Collective Podcast

111 - Stephen McGhee - The Power of Pause: Redefining Leadership in a Fast-Paced World

“What's normal isn't normal,” declares Stephen McGhee, a leadership coach with over three decades of experience, as he joins the Quantum Biology Collective Podcast. Stephen shares his compelling journey from the high-stakes world of corporate finance to becoming a beacon of guidance for leaders seeking authenticity and alignment. His life took a dramatic turn following a near-fatal health scare, prompting him to reevaluate his priorities and embrace a path of leadership advisement.
In this episode, Stephen explores the concept of discretionary energy and its critical role in effective leadership. He challenges the conventional reliance on willpower, advocating instead for a deeper connection to one's inner truth and the cultivation of personal sovereignty. Stephen emphasizes that true leadership transcends titles and is rooted in the positive influence one can have on others, regardless of their position.
Join the conversation to discover how Stephen McGhee's insights can help you align your life with your true values, set clear boundaries, and harness your unique potential to lead with integrity and purpose.
Key Takeaways
1. Create space between stimulus and response. When triggered, pause and take a breath before reacting. This allows you to make a conscious choice rather than falling into familiar patterns.
2. Ask yourself "Who do I need to be?" in challenging situations. Focus on being rather than doing to approach leadership and problem-solving from a more effective mindset.
3. Practice deep listening - with others, yourself, and the world around you. Truly hearing and understanding builds trust and opens up new possibilities.
4. Take care of yourself first. As a leader, you need to maintain your own wellbeing and energy in order to effectively serve others.
5. Look for opportunities to lead and share your wisdom in everyday moments. Even small actions can have a ripple effect and make a difference.
Memorable Quotes
"The first law of leadership is take care of yourself. Breathe that in, let that camp in your heart and your body. Let it fill your cells. Take care of yourself."
"Clear boundaries are not barriers to the heart. People think that saying no is a bad thing in some way. But obligations are overrated."
"Leadership is far reaching. You will have no idea who will listen to this, who will then take something from it and go share it with their family or go share it with their patient, or go share it with a stranger on the street. Do not underestimate your power as a leader as you share."
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Website: https://www.mcgheeleadership.com/
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EP 110: Liquid Crystal to Ether: Next Level Quantum Biology (Replay)

“There’s no such thing as empty space.” Today’s episode of the Quantum Biology Collective podcast revisits a riveting and revelatory discussion with Carrie Bennet wherein she explains the truth of the matter, both inside and out. We are, Carrie explains, contrary to what mainstream medical research has so long led us to believe, not biochemical beings but electromagnetic and vibrational beings. In fact, we are liquid crystal, the fourth phase of water, and that water acts as a conduit for communication with the superfluid ether that exists—moves, in fact, constantly, and without resistance—all around us. Rather than a series of particles, she explains, everything is a fluid, moving wave. 
 
This means we can interact with the ether, organize and harness it to do everything from heal ourselves to communicate with our ancestors. Carrie will discuss why so many physicists—including Einstein—believed ether didn’t exist, yet how it could help explain the existence of the pyramids. She also explains why, since we are so closely in tune with an energy field that connects us to everything in the cosmos—we must be intentional with our emotions, thoughts and feelings. 
 
Tune in to today’s discussion to learn more about ether—the bridge between the physical and the spiritual. 
 
Quotes
“Really nothing is happening in the body without that water being involved. And that water provides this continuous web, this continuous conduit through which body-wide communication can take place. So, it legitimately is why this finger always knows what’s happening in this part of my brain which knows what’s happening in my big toe because there is a medium which connects it all through which they can communicate.” (24:21 | Carrie Bennett)
“If we were to blow an atom up until it was the size of a football field—one atom, the size of a football field—we would have a nucleus that was about the size of a quarter at the 50-yard line and then we would have a fly, which was the electron buzzing around the outside of the stadium. And the rest would be filled with this substance that we call the ether. So it’s not empty, that’s the scale. So, we’re talking about—it is a fluid—so, a fluid medium that basically fills all space. So, anywhere there is empty space, it fills it. And even things that appear solid are actually always imploding and always pulling it into them as well.”  (42:29 | Carrie Bennett)
“We’ve got to give up the idea of particles, even. We have to realize that everything is just a vibration, a wave, a fluid, a movement happening.” (44:05 | Carrie Bennett) 
 
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EP 109: Calm In The Chaos: A Conversation with Meredith Oke & Sarah Kleiner

“There are a lot of changes in the air,“ says Sarah Kleiner, founder of Sarah Kleiner Wellness on a recent episode of her Evolving Wellness podcast where she welcomed guest Meredith Oke. Throughout this episode, which Meredith shares with the Quantum Biology Collective podcast audience, the two discuss the rapid downfall of the traditional medical paradigm. Sarah describes being at the forefront of this movement beginning when her daughter suffered a brain injury resulting from a traditional medical procedure, and the mixed feelings she has now that so much of what she was criticized for is being taken seriously in the wider culture. 
 
The two women explain how we can converse with people who are resistant, close-minded, and even hostile toward the changes taking place. Listen in on today’s discussion to learn why Meredith says Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the only politician to still have a soul. 
 
Quotes
“Right now, in particular, like you said, there’s a lot of change in the air. People are really clinging to old behaviors, old beliefs. They’re more committed to…their own bullshit, and I don’t think there’s much we can do. I think it’s more attraction than promotion.” (7:26 | Sarah Kleiner) 
“When I realized that this system had damaged my child almost irreparably…when I had to come to the realization that it was something that I had done because I thought I was supposed to do that, I struggled with guilt, I struggled with severe depression—...and when people have to come through that realization that they’ve been in this system and they’ve been raising their kids and their families in this certain paradigm, they have to reckon with that part of themselves.” (22:23 | Sarah Kleiner) 
“This is what it means to be alive, to be human and a grownup. We look at uncomfortable things and figure it out, move forward and cultivate our discernment… if we shut down every time we feel that discomfort…we are not fully living.” (32:03 | Meredith Oke)
 
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EP 108: Quantum Bodies: Living & Moving As A Liquid Crystal Matrix

“Fascia is the interface of spirit animating the pattern of the matter of us,” says Joanne Avison, who returns to the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to explain that, despite what we’ve been taught, the body is not bio-mechanical and made up of three layers, but a series of spiral designs—including the heart that is the first thing to appear at conception and shape the unique individuals that we all are. We are, explains Joanne—movement specialist and practitioner and bestselling author on the topic of fascia and fascia anatomy—a liquid crystal matrix that is connected to and interacts with the larger liquid crystal matrix around us. 
 
Thinking of our bodies this way means debunking the benefits of popular methods and practices—such as stretching and yoga. Joanne explains how doing subtle micro-movements and their “5 Rs,” help us to tune into our bodies intelligence and learn to listen and respond. She shares how this bodywork helped her father, her clients and herself to rebound from major injury and illness, and why the success of healing in body work is largely about matching frequencies. 
 
Join today’s discussion to learn why the last thing we should be looking for is alignment and stability, and how to successfully navigate this new paradigm into which we’ve entered. 
 
Quotes
“That we can function as parts, work out those parts, put those parts together and then build a human—sorry, it doesn’t work like that. You self-organize as an original, completely unique, unicellular being and you self-organize into the architect that’s going to express itself as the architect. Go figure. You literally self-organize the architecture in order to express yourself as the architect expressing the architect.” (8:23 | Joanne Avison)
“It leaves me with the feeling that fascia is the interface. Fascia is the interface of spirit animating the pattern of the matter of us.” (22:18 | Joanne Avison)
“Because it’s fluid, your body is continually adjusting around it so your body is clocking that as movement. Because we’re liquid crystal, we’re not machines that need giant fake movements. I don’t want my joints oiled, I want my joints reminded that they’re a liquid crystal matrix.” (30:47 | Meredith Oke and Joanne Avison)
“This liquid crystal talks and it loves nothing more than to tell you its story. Usually, we don’t listen and so it shouts and we call that pain. And it says, ‘Psst! I hurt! Pay attention!’” (33:02 | Joanne Avison)
“That’s who we are. We’re actually dynamic instability. When I hear people talking about their training for alignment and instability, I walk away…We’re not stable and we’re not aligned and we’re not designed to be. We’re designed to walk on rough terrain that changes and adapt accordingly.” (41:59 | Joanne Avison)
 
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EP 107: Mitochondrial Poison & Breaking Free From The Prescription Paradigm

“Statins are prescribed like they’re candy—they’re not. They’re mitochondrial poison,” says Francisco Gutierrez, MD, allopathic trained physician specializing in internal medicine, who joins the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to explain why these drugs—which remain among the top three most prescribed in the U.S—not only do nothing for the primary prevention of heart disease but, for most people, do more harm than good. The mass overprescription of statins is based on a misunderstanding of the role cholesterol plays in the body, a misguided correlation between LDL and heart disease, flawed metrics and propaganda. 
 
Today, Dr. Francisco explains what we’re getting wrong about metabolic syndrome and how having a stroke at age 41 led him to first question the traditional medical paradigm. He discusses how many of the symptoms we associate with poor diet are just as much if not more a case of circadian misalignment. He shares stories of clients who have healed many of these symptoms. He also explains the difference between relative risk and absolute risk, how the pharmaceutical industry creates confusion between the two to promote products.
 
Join today’s episode to learn more about what we’re getting wrong about food, calories and exercise, and we truly build muscle–and it’s not about calories or exercise. 
 
Quotes
“The guardians of the ship of resiliency are the mitochondria. The mitochondria are basically what dictates if we’re sick or we thrive…mitochondria are quantum antennas, they pay attention to a lot of different inputs.” (15:10 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD)
“By just helping people fix their desynchronized circadian clock, I can show them how their mitochondria function is improving—how? By showing them with a body composition scan—that they’re reducing their body fat and increasing their muscle without exercise…Everybody has this idea that you have to go to the gym and spend an hour and a half and pump iron and that’s the way you’re going to make muscle. Nope. Nature makes your muscle.” (17:45 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD) 
“There are two things that really annoy me in how medical care is being promoted: one of them is cholesterol…The other one is the idea of calories.” (19:01 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD)
“Food is important, but food is the easiest thing to fix and I’ll explain why. More fundamental is the realization that you can get insulin resistance and fatty liver and high insulin with the resulting metabolic syndrome just by not enough sunlight and too much artificial light.” (23:02 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD)
“I was one who thought that the prescription pad was a solution. That’s it. What changed my view was my own stroke because I had to ask myself the question: ‘Why did this happen if I’m doing the things that they tell me to do?’”  (40:36 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD)
“Statins are prescribed like they’re candy—they’re not. They’re mitochondrial poison.” (58:27 | Francisco Gutierrez, MD)
 
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EP 106: Your Body Has The Answers: Learning To Listen To The Language of The Nervous System

“They’re chasing the tail of self-development but they don’t realize that it’s survival stress and stored trauma that they’re managing all the time,” says Irene Lyon, pioneer in somatic and nervous system work, about the many “functionally frozen” people who attempt to engage in healing modalities while ignoring the foundational issue. On today’s episode of the Quantum Biology Collective podcast, Irene explains that when we experience trauma and adverse childhood experiences (ACE), and fail to release them physically—the way all other animals do in nature—they remain trapped in our autonomic nervous system. This is the basis of a myriad of chronic diseases, biomechanical issues, and dysfunctional behaviors. Until these baseline issues are addressed, healing modalities—namely meditation—remain ineffective and can actually cause far worse problems by bringing trauma to the surface and evoking the body’s original panic response. 
 
By following our impulses, practicing self-regulation and living in closer alignment with  nature, we can not only heal our trauma and open untold vistas of potential, but, being quantum beings, change the course of others, including those in the future and past generations. Irene’s clients have even reported it’s made parenting easy. She’ll discuss how to retrain yourself to best respond when you experience physical pain—including in public—and what to think about before embracing popular techniques such as breath work and cold plunging. 
 
There’s nothing “wrong” with us, we just have stored traumatic memories in our nervous system that wants to move out. Learn more about Irene’s 21-Day Tuneup to learn how you can start to approach the process of somatic healing and nervous system regulation. 
 
Quotes
“If you have no place to put the memories that flood through when you get quiet with yourself, psychosis can occur, a chronic illness can occur.” (20:06 | Irene Lyon)
“We have unconscious memories of everything that’s occurred to us sitting in our nervous system physiology and so the penny drops and all this old survival stress just bubbles up.” (31:14 | Irene Lyon)
“It’s not that there’s something wrong with you per se, it’s that—if we’re really accurate—there’s stored traumatic memory in the autonomic nervous system that wants to move out.” (35:39 | Irene Lyon)
“The autonomic nervous system governs the fight/flight/freeze/shutdown/collapse. It also governs our temperature regulation, our digestion, immune system, cardiovascular system, our social engagement. So, when we start to listen to these impulses, it’s like we’re reverse engineering the health of the system.” (51:25 | Irene Lyon)
 
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EP 105: Former Intelligence Analyst On How Lyme Is A Disease of Light

“Lyme keeps you in a metabolic state of winter,” says Timothy Hammond of Lyme disease, which host Meredith Oke describes as the “apex predator of our time.” While working as an intelligence analyst for the military as well as major organizations and firms, Timothy developed a debilitating case of Lyme. After both pharmaceutical and naturopathic modalities failed to treat it and destroyed his microbiome, he set out to understand the environmental factors–namely light, water and magnetism—which are so crucial to our health and healing. On today’s episode of the Quantum Biology Collective podcast, Timothy explains why the answer lay not at the biochemical level but at the biophysical level.
 
He shares his four pillars to achieving cellular coherence, why the oft-maligned reactive oxygen species are essential to our health, and how foreign EMFs have the same effects as Lyme. He also shares how we can guard ourselves against media manipulation and navigate the series of conflicting narratives all around us.
 
Learn how Timothy is helping others to optimize their quantum health with his company Regenerint and how to access complimentary materials. 
 
Quotes
“Any centralized system is ultimately vulnerable to corruption because of these single points of failure. In the quantum biology space, one of the beauties of it is that this is decentralized. You don’t need to go through any centralized authority or intermediary to go out and reconnect with nature and experience the healing benefits of that.” (24:49 | Timothy Hammond)
“I think the isolation from society is part of the worst aspect of any chronic illness.” (35:25 | Timothy Hammond)
“It was the same error of thinking in that instead of throwing tons and tons of pharmaceutical medications at my body, they were throwing tons and tons of herbs and supplements…it’s the same mentality of something from the outside having to be inserted in rather than examining what environmental conditions are needed to activate the body’s innate healing capacity and innate healing intelligence.” (36:32 | Timothy Hammond)
“These biochemical models, which involved the pharmaceutical approach, the allopathic approach, the naturopathic approach, were all working on the level of biochemistry…so this connection with nature led me to explore biophysics, which is a more fundamental layer upon which biochemistry is built…it doesn’t matter how hard you’re working on the biochemical piece. If your light, water, and magnetism environmental inputs are wrong, you're not going to have the success you’re looking for.” (38:48 | Timothy Hammond)
 
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Website: regenerint.com
Full bio: www.timothyghammond.com
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EP 104: Trust Your Journey: From Engineering to EMFs & A Decentralized Life

“This is the main environmental toxin left to attack, the most pervasive issue, and the most inconvenient truth,” says Tristan Scott who joins the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to discuss the dangers of non-native EMFs, the kind with which we are bombarded on a near-constant basis and the effects of which have been majorly downplayed–if not outright denied–by the entities meant to protect us. Luckily, the methods to circumvent nearly 90% of these EMFs are very simple and almost always free, and Tristan shares those methods with us today. 
 
He also explains why so much of what we thought we knew about the topic is incomplete if not flat out wrong. Foreign EMFs interfere with the signals that our electromagnetic biology receives from the electromagnetic spectrum of the earth. Tristan explains how and why our bodies kick off reactive oxygen species, and why supplements often do far more harm than good. He explains how he came to work on the Daylight Computer, the first biologically friendly computer and what we can expect from it in the near future. 
 
Learn what Tristan learns from his deep connection with nature and how we can take the steps to empower ourselves to mitigate the effects of EMF pollution and forge our own paths back to nature as well. 
 
Quotes
“Let me start by saying: This is nothing new. This has been going on for decades. In the 60s, 70s, 80s, it was more so the power frequencies and in some portion of the radio frequency spectrum.” (21:34 | Tristan Scott)
“What I like to tell people is, you need to first understand that our biology, at the lowest level, is electromagnetic. It’s based on photons, electrons, protons and the electromagnetic spectrum is vast. It’s all light—most of it’s not visible light——it’s all photonic energy.” (22:05 | Tristan Scott)
“This is the last stool that needs to fall. Everyone’s aware of Big Food and Big Ag, and Pfizer and Pharma—they’re all in bed together. So is Big Tech, Big Telecom, and the FCC. It’s the same spiel going on just in this adjacent industry that really has us at the cusp of being completely enamored and completely dependent on their products.” (28:07 | Tristan Scott)
“The signal to noise ratio has never been lower, and electromagnetic interference with our biology has never been higher…It’s causing chaos in communication and also inflammation and that’s leading to inflammation and chronic fatigue and chronic disease.” (37:02 | Tristan Scott)
“Everyone thinks that reactive oxygen species are purely bad…But reactive oxygen species might just be the most important aspect of our biology because they’re rooted in the cellular communication hub that is our biology.” (42:37 | Tristan Scott)
 
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Website: https://daylightcomputer.com
Instagram: @tristan_health 
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EP 103: Light, Biology & Mindset: You’re Doing Better Than You Think

“I have a sunshine problem,” realized Dr. Kelsey Dexter, endocrinologist, after, despite living an otherwise clean and healthy life, began experiencing neurological problems and a subsequent diagnosis of MS. After being “aggressively sun avoidant” for most of her life, she began “an intentional sun practice,” and her symptoms were quickly alleviated, sending her down a quantum biology and circadian health rabbit hole. Now, she’s on a mission to help people understand the connection between circadian disruption and chronic disease, and particularly to help address the overrepresentation of obesity and diabetes in the Southeast region of the U.S. where she holds her practice. 
 
Too often, Dr. Kelsey says, people identify too deeply with their diagnoses and diseases, which has repercussions even at the biological level. She expresses support for her fellow physicians who would otherwise embrace preventative medicine more fully but are tied to a traditional system which works against them. 
 
Join today’s episode of the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to learn how Dr. Kelsey is joining the charge toward a new medical paradigm.
 
Quotes
“My mission now is to teach people about light. That’s what I’m most passionate about and I want everyone who is faced with any kind of chronic disease to know that they have power over this, and when you change your environment, when you change the inputs, the body has a pretty miraculous way of coming back into balance.” (13:19 | Dr. Kelsey Dexter)
“I just hope everybody can hear that message that we are supposed to be in connection with the earth for optimal health, and before you consider taking medicine to modulate your immune function or taking medicine to lower your blood sugar, or whatever, if you have the capacity to connect to the outside world…you can just improve so much more quickly, overall.” (13:53 | Dr. Kelsey Dexter)
“It’s so important, no matter what training you have, how many degrees you have, to stay open-minded and to stay curious and to be willing to try things because sometimes sticking to our dogma can really hurt us.” (16:01 | Dr. Kelsey Dexter)
“If you over-identify with your illness, your illness will consume you.” (51:00 | Dr. Kelsey Dexter)
 
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EP 102: The Urgent Task of Creating New Systems Healthcare In The Age of An Autoimmune Epidemic

“The ship is sinking, the people in charge are in denial and they’re making a lot of money,” says Dr. Leland Stillman, who returns to the Quantum Biology Collective podcast to discuss the proliferation of autoimmune diseases—including unfamiliar ones—-and the $1.3 trillion that the pharmaceutical industry is set to make in the coming months, just as people are abandoning the traditional medical paradigm–and its system of perverse incentives—in droves. Today, Dr. Stillman will break down how autoimmune diseases—including POTS and PANDAS, both of which are becoming increasingly common in young people—actually form and function in the body, and how we can begin to take control of our own health.
 
It begins with identifying and addressing the toxins—both internal and external, from our diets and EMF exposure to our thoughts and relationships—that ultimately erode our cells and their ability to function. 
 
In today’s discussion, Dr. Stillman gets candid about the machinations of the pharmaceutical industry, the burden placed on most physicians. 
 
Quotes:
“The pharmaceutical industry is really gaming the system, and I would say this is quite intentional, by saying OK, we’ve studied this drug for ten years, there was no increase in the risk of XYZ, therefore we can unleash it on the public with no black box warnings and complete confidence. And as we’ve seen with one drug, and drug class, after another, oftentimes the system is just set up to not find the bad outcomes.” (17:13 | Dr. Leland Stillman)
“Many…have essentially said that the pharmaceutical industry indirectly owns the major medical publishers and journals, and those journal articles, and studies that are published therein, are what is ultimately submitted to the FDA, and they control the process, really, soup to nuts. And there are actually no consequences for them. When they make a mistake and they hurt a lot of people, they actually don’t pay any penalties in excess of their profits.” (17:49 | Dr. Leland Stillman
“It’s a completely different paradigm. You have to take charge and ownership of your diet, your lifestyle, your daily routine, the thoughts you think, the words you speak. I’ve seen all of that make a difference in patients’ care. Let alone supplement protocols, medications, everything we’re going to build into our autoimmune recovery program.” (25:11 | Dr. Leland Stillman)
 
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